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Post by HybridBuilder on May 31, 2006 13:30:07 GMT -5
will aftermarket 400ex aarms fit on a 250r chassis i might just pay my 400ex of and sale it to start my hybrid bike i just found all the shit i need
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Post by hotrodyamahonda on May 31, 2006 19:25:56 GMT -5
im not sure but i think they will
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Post by getdrunk on Oct 11, 2006 19:57:26 GMT -5
Yep. I think all you have to do is add a couple washers cause were the A-arms mount up their a tad skinnier than the mount on the frame.
I know that cause i was going to put 250 A-arms on my 400ex
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Post by jrspawn on Oct 11, 2006 20:04:42 GMT -5
the R arms are a good bit wider, i do not reccomend trying to "shim" them up, quite a difference in width and better yet, they arent supposed to go on there, but if you rigged it up they would bolt up.
Justin
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Post by nightmare311 on Oct 11, 2006 20:58:19 GMT -5
i got r arm on my 400 they went on no problem.
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Post by jrspawn on Oct 11, 2006 21:41:15 GMT -5
They most have been a heim style mounting point with bushing arm, becasue the r arms are def. wider.
Justin
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Post by getdrunk on Oct 12, 2006 12:40:41 GMT -5
Well i did research and the 400ex arms are skinnier were they mount up so all they need is washers.
I just baught some A-arms. They were labled ASR TRX 250R, TRX 400EX +3, Up 1, Pro Star Plus A-Arms. I baught them and they mounted perfect and i didnt say what i needed em for. so 250r A-arms will fit.
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Post by jrspawn on Oct 12, 2006 20:36:39 GMT -5
Some of the cheaper brand/companies do make a "universal" style arm thats pretty much a 400ex arm and they say you can use them on anything. This would work for all around riding, But that is something i do not do with my quads or quads i build. To have the correct Geometry, radius's, and angles it is best to use a quality arm that is model specific. But a true 250r arm will not fit the 400ex chasis(example, the lower gibson a arms for an R will not fit a 400ex mounting point, i learned this years ago with one of my houser hybrids when i bought gibsons for it.)
Justin
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Post by getdrunk on Oct 13, 2006 15:51:41 GMT -5
Some of the cheaper brand/companies do make a "universal" style arm thats pretty much a 400ex arm and they say you can use them on anything. This would work for all around riding, But that is something i do not do with my quads or quads i build. To have the correct Geometry, radius's, and angles it is best to use a quality arm that is model specific. But a true 250r arm will not fit the 400ex chasis(example, the lower gibson a arms for an R will not fit a 400ex mounting point, i learned this years ago with one of my houser hybrids when i bought gibsons for it.) Justin Yeah well a 250r A arm may not fit a 400ex but all you do is grind the A arm mounts on the A-arms a lil skinnier and they wil fit in snug and will work as good as A-arms made for the quad. You will get a bunch of people saying no you need A arms made for your quad or they will not work. That is total bull poop. Its just l;ike peopls saying you need specific shocks or your quad will handle bad. Thats total bull dookie too. Shocks are not rocket since. All their is to a shock is a shaft valves and spring. You can use +2 arms on a normal sock and smoke a pros quad. Valving only deals wit hfirmnis and softnes. People come up with some real stupid poo. cursing is bad(admin-banshee7) you need to learn how to spell also. |
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Post by gtilley45 on Oct 13, 2006 17:58:34 GMT -5
getdrunk- It sounds like Justin's last reply pissed you off. Personally, I think he has forgotten more about quads than you know. Justin has built NUMEROUS race quads, most of them are some of the nicest quads you will ever see.
1.) I don't think there are many people that would want to grind on an a arm to make it fit. I sure as hell wouldn't.
2.) I think there is a little more to a proper shock setup than you do. If you disagree with either of these 2 points, call any chassis builder (Walsh, LSR, Laeger, PRP, etc. etc.) or big name bike builders (K&K ATV, East Coast ATV etc.) and share your opinions with them.
3.) I agree with your last sentence.
Sorry to sound like such an A-hole, but it seemed like you were being very narrow minded about it. And quite frankly, I think you are dead wrong.
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Post by jrspawn on Oct 13, 2006 20:09:53 GMT -5
Thank you grant. And getdrunk, i dont like to butt heads with anyone, but like grant said, you are totally wrong. Grinding a arms to fit is rigging up, and not having the same geometry, shock radius, and mounting points of everything. And about shocks, i think you meant to say the are not rocket "science", well there is Alot more to shock performance and setup than most people know. Yes the basic parts are a body, shaft, valve stack, springs, and crossovers. Correct settings, valving, spring rate, and arm combination are HUGE in a shocks performance. It Will make a difference. You obviously havent had the chance to ride a full built pro quality quad, or even a quad that is properly set right. Will any shock bolt up to whatever? Maybe. Will it work in the correct way it was built and preform for? NO! If you havent recognized yet, i am a die hard Penske/Axis rider. The help me out alot and i believe they are the best shock company out there. Being able to go to there location, or should i say "lab" will blow anyones mind. The technology in shocks now day is unrealy with all the R&D. Trust me on this one, i know just a little about things like this, just a little. Hopefully you can understand all of this, because no offense, but i think your last post kind of made everyone get a good laugh.
Justin
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Post by banshee7 on Oct 14, 2006 7:18:53 GMT -5
you know nothing jrspawn...lmao  |
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Post by getdrunk on Oct 16, 2006 14:12:51 GMT -5
Well A-arms only need to do a couple things. Make you wider/ move A-arms up if needed. If the A-arms your using can do that then looks like their doing what they should be.
Shocks only need to do 2 things. Let you have a lower ride hight and soak up the landings.
Set up like that you could beat a pros quad you would just need to be in better shape.
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Post by gtilley45 on Oct 16, 2006 18:47:38 GMT -5
You have a right to your opinion.
But once again, I have to disagree. I think you are WAY off on both of those areas.
If building shocks/chassis parts were that easy, why are there so few companies that build quality products? The reason why you have to pay so much for shocks, a arms, swing arms, etc. is because just anybody can't make that stuff. It goes back to supply and demand. If it was that easy to build that stuff, more people would build it. That would lower the cost. But it takes a LOT of knowledge, skill, and time to build, and there are only a few that have that knowledge and skill to build stuff the right way. So they know they don't have to lower their prices because people that want quality products will continue to pay the prices they ask.
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